About the Point of Relation Podcast
“Point of Relation is the spark of alchemy that occurs in conversation between two people and gives birth to something new that didn’t exist before.”
- Thomas Hübl
A point of relation is when that spark, or alchemy, occurs in conversation. When something new – an idea, an insight – emerges that didn’t exist before.
It’s also a practice to be related, even in the face of contradiction, paradox, and conflict. To host a space for those tensions – an integration space where the past, present and future meet.
It is a point of presence.
Each podcast will be fertile ground for innovative conversations. Alchemy. Sparks. Inspirational substance or a higher purpose, if you will.
That is the purpose of Point of Relation.
About Thomas Hübl
Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change by integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science.
Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2013. He is the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World (2023) and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds (2020), which was featured in Oprah Daily as one of “10 Books to Help with Old, Painful Traumas”. He has published articles in Harvard Health and the Journal of Awareness-Based Systems Change.
Hübl has served as an advisor and guest faculty for organizations and universities and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. He has presented talks and taught workshops on resilience, collective healing, and relational competencies for healing trauma at Harvard Medical School since 2019.
As an executive coach and trainer, he supports CEOs, consultants, coaches, and leaders in their personal and professional development, guides trauma-informed leadership, and provides senior supervision and guidance.
Born in Austria, Hübl studied medicine at the University of Vienna and worked as a paramedic for nine years. He left his studies at the University in the 1990s to begin a new life path focused on teaching meditation and mindfulness-based awareness practices. He began holding retreats in Austria and Germany in the early 2000s and noticed that many participants began to voice some of their deeply held intergenerational wounds stemming from the Second World War.
As these programs evolved over the next two decades, he developed the Collective Trauma Integration Process for working with individual, ancestral, and collective trauma. This model promotes a safe exploration of sharing and reflection, guided by a facilitation process that supports radical openness, transparent communication, mindful awareness, and refined relational competencies.
Hübl has led large-scale events that have brought together thousands of Germans and Israelis to acknowledge, face, and heal the cultural shadow left by the Holocaust. Over the past ten years, his intensive training programs have addressed the persistent challenges of our time – climate anxiety, racism, gender violence, and political polarization, among others – through the lens of individual, ancestral, and collective trauma.
The interdisciplinary nature of Hübl’s work has been shared with and practiced by organizations and working groups of physicians, psychologists, and therapists. Since 2019, Hübl has hosted an annual Collective Trauma Summit which has brought together hundreds of prominent speakers and draws hundreds of thousands of attendees from around the world.
In 2017, Hübl and his wife, Israeli artist Yehudit Sasportas, founded The Pocket Project, an NGO dedicated to addressing and integrating collective trauma throughout the world. Trauma-informed leadership, post-genocide reform, and a practice called “global social witnessing” are key areas of focus and activity.
Learn more at Thomashuebl.com