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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Hübl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.
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Episode 219
November 3, 2026
The Energetic and Spiritual Dimensions of Trauma Healing with Anna Molitor
This week, we’re sharing a recent live teaching from Thomas, in conversation with somatic healing practitioner and group facilitator Anna Molitor, on how you can refine your perception and strengthen your inner awareness to uncover the deeply hidden patterns that act as barriers to healing.
Thomas explores how greater awareness of our own body, emotions, mind, and energy helps us distinguish our own material from that of our clients, family, friends, and community.
Thomas’ work focuses on how trauma is held across individual, relational, ancestral, and collective dimensions. This conversation opens the door to a more comprehensive and precise approach to healing.
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Episode 218
October 27, 2026
The Meeting of Neuroscience and Contemplative Practice with Rick Hanson
This week, Thomas sits down with psychologist and NY Times best-selling author Dr. Rick Hanson to explore the place where neuroscience and spiritual practice converge to unlock inner transformation and greater compassion.
Dr. Hanson describes what he calls “positive neuroplasticity,” a feature that’s hardwired in the circuitry of our brains that we can harness to cultivate healing, growth, and awakening.
He and Thomas discuss the importance of mindfulness and body-centered practices to dissolve our evolutionary armor and negative patterns developed in early life and reprogram our nervous systems to be more peaceful and embodied. And importantly, how this process can lead to systemic change and a more united global community.
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This week, Thomas shares a teaching on how the personal and global challenges we’re facing present an opportunity to transform and integrate our undigested trauma to support collective evolution.
Importantly, Thomas explains why it’s so important to honor this difficult moment without avoiding discomfort or engaging in “spiritual bypassing,” and explains how we can stay engaged and empowered as we digest our buried trauma and process emotional obstacles.
In order to shine a light on the path forward, we need support. This includes honoring our defense mechanisms instead of judging them, leaning on community, finding meaningful spiritual practices, and doing the deep inner work so that our presence and wisdom can impact those around us.
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This week, we’re sharing a compilation of some of our favorite segments from previous episodes on the healing power of creativity, exploring how music, writing, and art can support us in our lives and on our healing journeys.
Tune in to watch Thomas in conversation with legendary musician Alanis Morissette, poet and philosopher David Whyte, bestselling author Cheryl Strayed, and essayist and novelist Pico Iyer.
Topics include how collective creative experiences amplify connection, allowing what moves you to break your heart, the healing inherent in writing your truth, and how to channel the artistic impulses lying dormant within you.
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