“Nature positive is people positive. Without harmony with nature, there won’t be a bright future for people.”

This week, Thomas Hübl sits down with Marco Lambertini, the Convener of the Nature Positive Initiative, to explore humanity’s deep, inherent connection to nature, what’s at stake if climate destruction continues to accelerate, and what we can do to stop it.

Marco’s Nature Positive movement is working on actionable measures to reverse nature loss by 2030, bringing more forests, fish, and healthy ecosystems back to our planet. Despite the massive challenges we’re facing, he believes that we have the understanding, technology, and means to achieve this goal, but we can’t do it without both personal and systemic transformation.

The future of our planet’s ecosystem is intrinsically linked to our own well-being, economy, and future. This discussion is a powerful call to action, reminding us that this generation holds the historic opportunity to put humanity on a completely different, more harmonious course.

Can we approach discomfort and tension as opportunities for growth? Can humanity mature beyond divisive conflict?

This week, Thomas is joined by much loved returning guest, NYT bestselling author, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, to hash out the concerning fragmentation that feels inescapable right now and explore what we can do to combat it.

As we face past and current collective traumas, massive information overload, and current events that overwhelm our nervous systems, it’s not hard to see how we got here.

Thomas and Elise offer hopeful frameworks for navigating these challenges and bolstering our ability to hold tension, engage in mature disagreement, and ultimately, re-humanize each other through deeper understanding and self-regulation.

This goes beyond surface-level “wellness” to incorporate psychological, spiritual, and practical approaches that we can adopt to build a stronger foundation for our individual and collective futures. It’s an inspiring conversation that we hope you’ll tune in for.

Thomas explores the foundational spiritual building blocks of life, with a particular focus on the concept of space. More than just a void that we occupy physically, space is a key element of life that we co-create. And we need space—for reflection, digestion, integration, and nervous system regulation.

Get a bigger picture perspective on your spiritual journey and learn essential tools for connecting to your inner wisdom, resilience, compassion, and intelligence.