Thomas is joined by Senior Lecturer in the MIT Management Sloan School, and the Founding Chair of the Presencing Institute, Otto Scharmer, and facilitator, systems change leader, intrapreneur, and strategist, Antoinette Klatzky. They discuss what Otto calls the “architectures of connection”– the social systems and structures that can either be extractive and perpetuate violence and trauma, or be open and regenerative and enable healing. Thomas, Antionette, and Otto also explore how they’ve taken differing paths to the same conclusion; that all societies need collective healing spaces where intense emotions and experiences can be witnessed and creative inspiration for the future can emerge.
EPISODE 32
September 12, 2023
Otto Scharmer and Antoinette Klatzky – Creating Social Systems With a Soul
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“You need loving attention. You need that open hearted and open minded holding space, but you also need the courage to go to the edge.”
- Otto Scharmer
Guest Information
Otto Scharmer
Otto Scharmer is a Senior Lecturer in the MIT Management Sloan School, and the Founding Chair of the Presencing Institute. He introduced the concept of “presencing”— learning from the emerging future — in his bestselling books Theory U and Presence. He co-founded MITx u.lab, a platform that has activated a global ecosystem of transformational change involving more than 160,000 users. In March 2020, Otto and his colleagues launched GAIA (Global Activation of Intention and Action), a free, online learning journey geared toward profound civilizational renewal.
Learn more at ottoscharmer.com
Antoinette Klatzky
Antoinette Klatzky is a facilitator, systems change leader, intrapreneur, and strategist dedicated to radical regeneration for people and the planet. She has co-created social enterprises, innovated on philanthropic strategy, and hosted the activation of local, national, and global movements. Antoinette currently serves as the Vice President of Programs and Partnerships of the Eileen Fisher Foundation and serves on the boards of TIDES Network, Women’s Funding Network, Westchester Community Foundation, and the Presencing Institute.
Learn more at antoinetteklatzky.com
Notes & Resources
Key points from this episode include:
- The idea of the “social field,” a collective body composed of our relationships, and how we affect it
- How being seen and having your highest potential acknowledged within a community enables you to live into that potential
- The power of deep, open, present conversations to invite and move powerful energies
- Bringing the spiritual dimension into the realm of systems change.